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Post by Natalie on Oct 4, 2005 1:49:50 GMT -5
Hey all On the interview today with Dino (Oct 3) Marty said he and Jordis helped co-write Pretty Vegas for JD? Does that mean the song is actually Marty's not JD's/INXS's? Or because maybe INXS did a little switcheroo with the words on Pretty Vegas that now makes it their own original version? Does Marty get anything ($) when Pretty Vegas plays on radio/itunes etc.? Just wondering.... Thanks,
W8TN4U"MC" = Waiting for you Marty Casey!!!!!!! that is what my screen name means in case you were wondering.. i know it looks a little strange with all the letters and numbers there
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msd2k
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Post by msd2k on Oct 4, 2005 2:14:42 GMT -5
Marty had reported on his blog on the MSN boards back in August that JD had kept in some of what he and jordis wrote on the song. It's JD's song but Jordis and Marty did apparently contribute to it. Might not be a large contributions but they helped..and yes I do believe that would require that they get some percentage of the royalties for that. However..I don't know for sure. Im speculating.
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Post by vstreamer on Oct 4, 2005 7:30:01 GMT -5
I was also surprised when he said that on the radio. He must be assured he will get some type of credit on the song. My take - he's letting us know it's ok to support it and INXS.
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Post by Cindy on Oct 4, 2005 7:38:39 GMT -5
I too believe Marty wants us all to support INXS and Pretty Vegas. And I really think we should as much as we can. I personally am very thankful to INXS for introducing me to Mr. Marty Casey....and for helping carry his music to the next level. And how best to show our thanks to them than to buy tickets for their concerts (especially with Lovehammers opening) and listen to, buy, play their records. Love the song, hate it or just be indifferent--Pretty Vegas is INXS's chosen first single released off their new cd. So I am gonna be as supportive as I can.
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Post by vstreamer on Oct 4, 2005 8:37:05 GMT -5
I just bought PV off I tunes. It's not in the top 100.
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myohmy
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Post by myohmy on Oct 4, 2005 9:44:34 GMT -5
Ok...time for me to start posting here!!! MSN board is getting ridiculous ...the negativity is rampant....mostly last night about Marty's comments about co-writing PV from his last interview...( right MsD2k?) ....so much name calling and honestly, none of us "know" what the truth is....if you are a fan of Marty's you will not have negative notions about his comments....I totally agree with Cindy's post above...especially wanting to thank INXS and the show for bringing Marty out to a bigger audience...and earning him legions of new fans!! Oh, and I was not into INXS....before this show.....I am now a fan of theirs as well....so going to an INXS/LoveHammer show will be alright with me. I must admit however, that if I had to choose between INXS & a LoveHammer concert....well,no contest....LoveHammers all the way! I have been reading the posts here as well as at MSN.....this site is great full of Marty news and Cindy & Amy have been doing an outstanding job keeping things updated & positive & organized too!!! Kudos to all your efforts!!!! Looking forward to hearing the interview today from the Loop....since it can't be streamed live..and since I am in Boston...will wait for it to be linked here later.... Yes..I know Marty is a White Sox fan being from Chicago and all...but I will be rooting for the Red Sox....However, may the best sox win!!! Taping the game....just in case Marty is televised in any way...not thinking he will be...but hey, just in case!! A true blue Marty/LoveHammer fan Valencia p.s will spiffy up my profile in a bit....add pics etc.....now that I won't be spending much time on MSN boards...
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Post by bobswife on Oct 4, 2005 9:51:28 GMT -5
Ok...time for me to start posting here!!! MSN board is getting ridiculous ...the negativity is rampant....mostly last night about Marty's comments about co-writing PV from his last interview...( right MsD2k?) ....so much name calling and honestly, none of us "know" what the truth is....if you are a fan of Marty's you will not have negative notions about his comments....I totally agree with Cindy's post above...especially wanting to thank INXS and the show for bringing Marty out to a bigger audience...and earning him legions of new fans!! Oh, and I was not into INXS....before this show.....I am now a fan of theirs as well....so going to an INXS/LoveHammer show will be alright with me. I must admit however, that if I had to choose between INXS & a LoveHammer concert....well,no contest....LoveHammers all the way! I have been reading the posts here as well as at MSN.....this site is great full of Marty news and Cindy & Amy have been doing an outstanding job keeping things updated & positive & organized too!!! Kudos to all your efforts!!!! Looking forward to hearing the interview today from the Loop....since it can't be streamed live..and since I am in Boston...will wait for it to be linked here later.... Yes..I know Marty is a White Sox fan being from Chicago and all...but I will be rooting for the Red Sox....However, may the best sox win!!! Taping the game....just in case Marty is televised in any way...not thinking he will be...but hey, just in case!! A true blue Marty/LoveHammer fan Valencia p.s will spiffy up my profile in a bit....add pics etc.....now that I won't be spending much time on MSN boards... That is not the only place that negativity is rampant. Also that way on another fan site (won't mention names). Kind of disheartning the way people have to bash other people.
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wendyc122
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Post by wendyc122 on Oct 4, 2005 11:55:01 GMT -5
It turns out that this is pretty easy to verify. If you go to Rockstar site and check Marty's blog entry from August 13, you'll see that he wrote this:
"In the next part of the clinic with Navarro and Andrew Farriss we found out we were going to perform the song for Andrew and Navarro so Jordis, Jessica and I worked it out. Group one did their song and nailed their poppy ditty, it was a really fun tune. Our team performed our version and I loved it for the simplicity and rawness of the tune. Jordis has a killer voice and turned it on in the difficult stress of the situation at hand. J.D. then sang his version of the song and included pieces that we all as a group collaborated on. That made me feel good to hear that he kept those melodies and lyrics in his vision. I respected that."
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Post by asthmaticagnostic on Oct 4, 2005 12:42:44 GMT -5
Marty has repeated that he and JD are friends, respect each other until he was blue in the face, so why cannot they have collaborating in writing the song, making 2 different arrangements? It is so disheartening to see this animosity between the fans...Music is about unity and enjoyment, it is not a freaking football game, the guys were in a bloodless competition, now the competition is over. Why the heck can't people respect different tastes I will never understand! I wouldn't give a rat's ass if J.D. claimed that he had a hand in writing Trees. The songs are both there for enjoying. There are so many more important things to get angry about in this world!
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msd2k
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Post by msd2k on Oct 4, 2005 13:40:06 GMT -5
MyohMY yes its been very disheartening to read some of the awful things being said on other boards. It still slays me why JD fans are so up in arms over Marty having a hand in writing the song. Who cares? It's still JD/INXS tune..Marty doesn't want it. I saw people starting threads to get a petition to email INXS and have Lovehammers kicked off the tour. All over Marty's contribution to PV. Just goes to show there isn't a lot of sanity out there with some of these people.
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Post by bobswife on Oct 4, 2005 13:50:09 GMT -5
MyohMY yes its been very disheartening to read some of the awful things being said on other boards. It still slays me why JD fans are so up in arms over Marty having a hand in writing the song. Who cares? It's still JD/INXS tune..Marty doesn't want it. I saw people starting threads to get a petition to email INXS and have Lovehammers kicked off the tour. All over Marty's contribution to PV. Just goes to show there isn't a lot of sanity out there with some of these people. Yes, I read about emails to INXS about getting rid of Lovehammers on tour also. I think I will just stay at this lovely Marty home and do no more wondering around.
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Post by xsiveone on Oct 4, 2005 14:24:29 GMT -5
I keep hearing the MSN boards mentioned. What boards are you referring to? I don't see any forums off of RS: INXS. Is this something different?
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Post by asthmaticagnostic on Oct 4, 2005 15:04:42 GMT -5
Do you have an MSN passport? Without it, you cannot access the boards. I was there during the show, but beat it as soon as J.D. won. About the "petition" to have the LH kicked out... Apart from the fact that INXS and ID know exactly who has collaborated in the writing of Pretty Vegas, they are not stupid: the LH and Marty will bring a ton of people to the shows. and this translates in $$$ for them.
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Post by stephkee on Oct 4, 2005 17:38:31 GMT -5
Although I love Marty, I am ultimately a JD fan. (please read on before you attack!) I am an frequent flyer at the JD boards, and I am a little dissapointed in everyone's reaction, but you have to admit that there hasn't been a history of peace between the JD and Marty camps. Just as some Marty fans cross the line (walking out of the concert after Lovehammers), so do the JD fans (anti-lovehammer e-mail campaign). I wish we could all put it behind us and just LOVE THE MUSIC!!! Personnally, I thought JD was roit for OB, but I coudn't have been happier when they announced Lovehammers as the opening act (I get to have my cake and eat it too!) As for Marty co-writing PV, well if its true than all the better- it just makes it that much more meaningful. Peace, from a JD fanatic, but also a Marty lover (Mr. Brightside...yummmm)
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Post by asthmaticagnostic on Oct 4, 2005 17:55:12 GMT -5
Hi and Welcome! I am not the type of person who attacks those who don't think alike...I find that the Marty fans of this board are very accepting, mature, fun people. I welcome even Merle Haggard's fans if they are fun, sane, reasonable people. I personally don't like J.D.'s style, but I liked some of his performances (the Elvis song and Mystify) and yes, I concur, he's better for OB - Marty is better for the LoveHammers and a more contemporary audience. One thing I must tell you, though, and I hope you will accept it: it's my prerogative to leave a concert if I am not interested in an artist/band on the bill and have paid a full ticket. I have done it with Jerry Cantrell and Nickelback: I could not care less about Nickelback, so I enjoyed Genius Cantrell's act and left the theater(the bonus was also that I saw the Man close up outside and his stash of guitars!). It's not boycotting, it's a matter of personal taste. From what I heard of INXS music, I am not really blown away, and it would be a long night. This is very different from a petition to kick the LH out of the tour or threatening to throw objects at them. That is not J.D.'s fans prerogative. That is senseless violence and immaturity. This is the difference I have seen between what I see here and some (not all) J.D. fans. Peace!!!
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Post by stephkee on Oct 4, 2005 18:12:15 GMT -5
hey I completely respect that- if you don't like a band, then why stick around? My objection is to the folks that want to leave just to make an anti-JD point to INXS- you know the ones at the vile MSN boards "INXS you guys are idiots", "INXS are morons" etc. I find it really disrespectful to the band. At the JD site I go to, I haven't heard anything about throwing stuff at Marty. That would be totally vicious and juvenile. Its actually pretty funny, 'cause many of the threads over there are really similar, just we're gushing over the other guy. That being said, you all seem like a good bunch of people, and you are completely entitled to your own opinions. I'll be checking this place out once in a while, cause I do have a soft spot in my heart for Marty.
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Post by Hectic Eclectic on Oct 4, 2005 18:16:23 GMT -5
Marty has repeated that he and JD are friends, respect each other until he was blue in the face, so why cannot they have collaborating in writing the song, making 2 different arrangements? It is so disheartening to see this animosity between the fans...Music is about unity and enjoyment, it is not a freaking football game, the guys were in a bloodless competition, now the competition is over. Why the heck can't people respect different tastes I will never understand! I wouldn't give a rat's ass if J.D. claimed that he had a hand in writing Trees. The songs are both there for enjoying. There are so many more important things to get angry about in this world! Thank-you for pointing out that this was about music not about killing the other competitors. That was what made the show fun to watch for all the folks who usually hate reality shows (me). I think the fan rage was the pits on the RS_INXS boards. As bigbrother said, "All you can do is ignore them, and hope they'll go away if noone gives them any attention." I certainly was guilty of some raging when the JD/Jordis episode went down. Then I realized that I was just getting sucked into other people's trama/dramas (and revisiting some of my own baggage). I began to take a page from the Rockers themselves, and let it go. The thing I try to keep in mind is that you can't reason or even dialog with someone like that. If they make a comment that makes your ears ring and your toes curl, just turn away.
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Post by Hectic Eclectic on Oct 4, 2005 18:26:34 GMT -5
Hi and Welcome! I am not the type of person who attacks those who don't think alike...I find that the Marty fans of this board are very accepting, mature, fun people. I welcome even Merle Haggard's fans if they are fun, sane, reasonable people. I personally don't like J.D.'s style, but I liked some of his performances (the Elvis song and Mystify) and yes, I concur, he's better for OB - Marty is better for the LoveHammers and a more contemporary audience. One thing I must tell you, though, and I hope you will accept it: it's my prerogative to leave a concert if I am not interested in an artist/band on the bill and have paid a full ticket. I have done it with Jerry Cantrell and Nickelback: I could not care less about Nickelback, so I enjoyed Genius Cantrell's act and left the theater(the bonus was also that I saw the Man close up outside and his stash of guitars!). It's not boycotting, it's a matter of personal taste. From what I heard of INXS music, I am not really blown away, and it would be a long night. This is very different from a petition to kick the LH out of the tour or threatening to throw objects at them. That is not J.D.'s fans prerogative. That is senseless violence and immaturity. This is the difference I have seen between what I see here and some (not all) J.D. fans. Peace!!! Well Said! I am one who will consider leaving after seeing Marty. I am a big INXS fan, but I don't like JD's style. I feel OB has taken a turn away from their unique sound and opted for something more assimilated and macho. I am a little concerned because I like Marty's style from the show, but not so much the Lovehammers music which, from the clips I've heard, also seems heavy and macho. I didn't really want Marty for INXS because I thought he would have more artistic freedom on his own (I was hoping for Mig because I enjoyed Mig's performances more than JD's). I'm just hoping that Lovehammers (also unfortunate 14 yr old boy name for band) will evolve as Marty has. The thing that would keep me at the show would be the fear of missing an impressive Marty moment if he joined OB and JD on stage for a song or two.
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mizzymc
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Post by mizzymc on Oct 4, 2005 18:50:22 GMT -5
MyohMY yes its been very disheartening to read some of the awful things being said on other boards. It still slays me why JD fans are so up in arms over Marty having a hand in writing the song. Who cares? It's still JD/INXS tune..Marty doesn't want it. I saw people starting threads to get a petition to email INXS and have Lovehammers kicked off the tour. All over Marty's contribution to PV. Just goes to show there isn't a lot of sanity out there with some of these people. oh dear that's awful.... i really hope that doesn't translate into disrespect when LH do open at the shows... woudl hate to have the JD fans booing Marty b/c of their warped view on this thing.
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musiclover
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Post by musiclover on Oct 4, 2005 21:45:47 GMT -5
MyohMY yes its been very disheartening to read some of the awful things being said on other boards. It still slays me why JD fans are so up in arms over Marty having a hand in writing the song. Who cares? It's still JD/INXS tune..Marty doesn't want it. I saw people starting threads to get a petition to email INXS and have Lovehammers kicked off the tour. All over Marty's contribution to PV. Just goes to show there isn't a lot of sanity out there with some of these people. Good grief! What is wrong with some people?? JD fans want Lovehammers off the tour because somehow Marty helped a friend (as much as we may not like him, JD and Marty were good friends) with a song?! I'm in adult-land right? No.. sounds like children ville. I'm glad to not read that junk. I only check one other forum very briefly. The rest is here and another place that is just Marty, but not rude. Adults need to grow up.
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