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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:15:20 GMT -5
The outside of the PBT office.. I stayed in the flat above it at one pt. That porch swing was nice.  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:16:36 GMT -5
My second Sunday in Madang I ended up teaching Sunday School...Here's my class.  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:17:29 GMT -5
Ahhh Papindo's in Madang..  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:18:32 GMT -5
A different Sunday School class that I visited..  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:19:56 GMT -5
So, our first Friday night we visited the Madang resort for desert. This guy was the musical entertainment. He sang "country roads.. take me home.. to the place.. I belong.." It was great.  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:25:19 GMT -5
Last picture.. This was taken at the top of the hill leading down to our place in Ukarumpa.  |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:28:39 GMT -5
I never answered the question about security and Ukarumpa. There are two reasons for it being closed in.
1. There are people who will rob or attack missionaries because missionaries do have more than they do. It is just something that happens.
2. There are some disputes between SIL and Ukarumpa the village over who owns the land.
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 8:29:21 GMT -5
Well, after a missionary gets done telling their tale they usually ask for questions.. so if there's anything you want to know then ask away.
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Post by ndavis021410 on Aug 27, 2006 9:09:56 GMT -5
Ok, I think I have a few...... 1. Allot of under devoloped countries have a problem or totally forbid Christianity. I'm thinking the people in PNG embrace the learning, does the government or officials have any restrictions on who you can give the translated Bible too? 2. What about tourist locations....You said there were larger villages, or even cities near by, but when you go inland, the conditions are a bit more primitive...In those areas, are there places or areas that tourists can stop, give, share, and visit that culture?..... 3. Are you going back?....If so, can we come too? 4. From your stories, it looks like the villages are pretty well self suffient in allot of areas....How did this evolve?...Does the trade change with seasons, need, or economic growth...Or is there economic growth other than your favorite spot, the market.... 5. Land wars, or war in general....You have mentioned friction with neighboring tribes, does that affect daily life, or is it not as "political" as we would think war as.... 6. Do they have police?....What happens when someone does a stupid or bad thing, that is illegal in their terms, what happens?....Is their system fair in dealing with criminals or accused criminals, do ya think America could learn from them in any way?....Do they have restorative community justice, where the community handles things?.....Do they have elders that are the "wise"....? 7. Ok, I'm done for now, give me another day, and I'll come up with more.....I'm sure....This is allll very educational and very very interesting to say the least here.....Thanks...Love ya....  |
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Post by ndavis021410 on Aug 27, 2006 9:12:12 GMT -5
Oh....One more
What was "their" questions like about America?...What do they feel or interpret the United States as?....
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Post by ndavis021410 on Aug 27, 2006 9:13:51 GMT -5
Oh....One more...... Did you street team PNG?.....Are they now listening to Lovehammers?..... Go ahead...tell everyone what name you gave that rooster....Go ahead..... Did they like the pictures of Dino?...Oh...I mean Marty, Bobby, Billy, and Dino?.... |
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Post by beachgirl on Aug 27, 2006 9:49:59 GMT -5
How did the people view Americans and you as a women? Was there any time that you felt unsafe? Did you have anyone act hostile toward you for your beliefs? What was the most wonderful thing that happened to you while you were there?
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Post by ndavis021410 on Aug 27, 2006 10:16:39 GMT -5
Awesome question my BG...
Can I add one more....The absolute worse moment you had too...?
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Post by rockfan on Aug 27, 2006 10:42:28 GMT -5
Lots of great questions!! Great story DG - thanks for sharing your journey with us.  |
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Post by rachael on Aug 27, 2006 12:26:28 GMT -5
Wow, DG, I am completely amazed at how you could immerse yourself in their culture and ways. You are a very strong woman to be able to do that! Thank you for sharing your summer experience with us.
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 18:28:41 GMT -5
Oh....One more What was "their" questions like about America?...What do they feel or interpret the United States as?.... I did have to go to an auto parts store and the guy there was a fan of movies. He had all kinds of questions about how America was like the US. Mostly they don't comprehend the life we have. In the office we found a kitchen timer that was going to be put in the yard sale. They never could grasp why you would need something like that. A hard thing was explaining what I teach (special ed) because they don't educate children with disabilities. Talking about America always ended up as a giggle fest. They love America though because Americans come to help out and we improve their economy because we bring in money. |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 18:39:34 GMT -5
Ok, I think I have a few...... 1. Allot of under devoloped countries have a problem or totally forbid Christianity. I'm thinking the people in PNG embrace the learning, does the government or officials have any restrictions on who you can give the translated Bible too? There are no religious restrictions. PNG people consider themselves Christian, but they have a lot of sorcery/traditional religion mixed in.
One problem is that they have areas that are "Cargo Cult" areas. These people believe that the Bible is literally a treasure map and that missionaries have the code but won't share.2. What about tourist locations....You said there were larger villages, or even cities near by, but when you go inland, the conditions are a bit more primitive...In those areas, are there places or areas that tourists can stop, give, share, and visit that culture?..... In the village there is really nothing like a store. In Samban they did have a market day and that's where I bought storyboards (carvings). Jesse and Kari are trying to encourage the people to finish the house to show off their carvings so that when someone does come in...Mostly stuff in sent to town.3. Are you going back?....If so, can we come too? I don't know yet.. I'm giving myself time. And sure.. You all would be welcome. We could start our own mission.4. From your stories, it looks like the villages are pretty well self suffient in allot of areas....How did this evolve?...Does the trade change with seasons, need, or economic growth...Or is there economic growth other than your favorite spot, the market.... Holy cow! You are making my brain work too hard. Well the villages were there first and so they are as they always have been. The towns have grown out of interference with the outside world or in dealing w/ Australia/England. There are only 2 seasons.. rainy and dry. Trade doesn't really change much between the seasons. However, they are now getting into growing Vanilla. Samban also grows cocoa. Ukarumpa is known for it's coffee. (It's actually sold in Goroka.) If you don't know, one of Starbucks special coffee blends is PNG.5. Land wars, or war in general....You have mentioned friction with neighboring tribes, does that affect daily life, or is it not as "political" as we would think war as.... I didn't have to deal with this. Umm more likely these days it's just heavies (grudges). People get beat up or have to pay restitution. There are murders and such, but I didn't hear of any battles or anything.6. Do they have police?....What happens when someone does a stupid or bad thing, that is illegal in their terms, what happens?....Is their system fair in dealing with criminals or accused criminals, do ya think America could learn from them in any way?....Do they have restorative community justice, where the community handles things?.....Do they have elders that are the "wise"....? They do have police and all stores in town have security guards that check you when you go in and out. In town you would be arrested and can go to jail. In the village they have big men and some sort of police force. More likely they will just beat you up and make you pay them.7. Ok, I'm done for now, give me another day, and I'll come up with more.....I'm sure....This is allll very educational and very very interesting to say the least here.....Thanks...Love ya....  Love you more! |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 18:42:11 GMT -5
Oh....One more...... Did you street team PNG?.....Are they now listening to Lovehammers?..... Go ahead...tell everyone what name you gave that rooster....Go ahead..... Did they like the pictures of Dino?...Oh...I mean Marty, Bobby, Billy, and Dino?.... I didn't have any music w/ me so no introduction to the tunes, I did however speak of the boys. I described Dino as a rascal. Em i man nogut tru.. Hee Hee.. I had TONS of Bobby pictures and I had Marty pictures w/ Chi and Penny so I talked about them. Up in Ukarumpa some of the missionaries had heard of RSINXS. Laura, a new friend of mine, was VERY impressed with the journal chi made me. |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 18:45:08 GMT -5
How did the people view Americans and you as a women? Was there any time that you felt unsafe? Did you have anyone act hostile toward you for your beliefs? What was the most wonderful thing that happened to you while you were there? They liked Americans and for the most part didn't treat me as they treat PNG women are treated. By virtue of being a white skin they thought I was their superior. I did feel unsafe a couple of times, but then National women would always come up and surround me. They are very protective. No one was ever hostile. The most wonderful thing.. Translating and publishing the 2 books in the Ap Ma language. I cried when they were done. That is right up there w/ seeing the guy hold the Mborea Kam scriptures in his hand for the first time. |
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Post by DG on Aug 27, 2006 18:46:46 GMT -5
Awesome question my BG... Can I add one more....The absolute worse moment you had too...? Worst moment.. The moment in LA when I had to tell Doc that I couldn't leave the airport. In PNG.. hmm.. there were bad times, but nothing that I wouldn't repeat. The bad stuff seemed to lead to better stuff. At the end I was sick of having dirty feet, ugly hair, and looking hideous all the time. |
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