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Post by pete on Sept 30, 2005 21:31:13 GMT -5
Finally, to be a little snarky, nobody seems to have mentioned that "Pretty Vegas" was co-written by Andrew Farriss. It is not a completely original song ... unlike Trees! As much as I like Marty, I have HUGE problems defending Trees. I pray Marty doesn't decide to release that as a single. I really don't think it will be a positive move for Marty's career if people get the idea this is indicative of his creative abilities. |
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Post by bobswife on Sept 30, 2005 21:36:11 GMT -5
Finally, to be a little snarky, nobody seems to have mentioned that "Pretty Vegas" was co-written by Andrew Farriss. It is not a completely original song ... unlike Trees! As much as I like Marty, I have HUGE problems defending Trees. I pray Marty doesn't decide to release that as a single. I really don't think it will be a positive move for Marty's career if people get the idea this is indicative of his creative abilities. Think you need to check the MSN downloads on that one!! |
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Post by Cindy on Sept 30, 2005 22:01:46 GMT -5
As much as I like Marty, I have HUGE problems defending Trees. I pray Marty doesn't decide to release that as a single. I really don't think it will be a positive move for Marty's career if people get the idea this is indicative of his creative abilities. I can say that I do believe you are in the great minority of one here. Check here if you don't believe me: music.msn.com/list?list=00000000-0201-0001-0000-000000000000We understand and respect your opinion, but this forum is dedicated to supporting Marty Casey and his band Lovehammers. |
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Post by pete on Sept 30, 2005 23:00:27 GMT -5
I'm very sorry Cindy if I came across as unsupportive, that wasn't my intent at all!
All I was trying to say, I guess rather clumsily, is that since RSINXS, I've listened to the Lovehammers, and compared to much of what else they do, I just don't think Trees is up to that same level. And it would be a shame if the public's first taste of his talent is a song that I (albeit a minority of one) think is not nearly as good as what has gone before.
I don't put a lot of stock in MSN d/l as a barometer of how the "public" at large is responding to the Rock Star contestants. The dominance of all the show's material over far more established and, at least right now, popular acts just shows that the stats are skewed from fans of the show, not the general music buying public as a whole.
I have no doubt Marty's future success is assured, and I'll be cheering him on! But can we not support someone and be honest at the same time? In fact, if we think that a move is wrong for his career, isn't the truly supportive thing to do is to say it?
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Post by Cindy on Oct 1, 2005 10:40:12 GMT -5
Pete I do find it rather disappointing that you chose to leave the board after I also posted my opinion which happened to disagree with yours.
I personally think Trees is a brilliant song....catchy, simple lyrics with darker, ironic subtext underneath.... stong vocals, with a bouncy verse and a rocking, strong chorus. It has a very modern rock sensibility and yet has broad appeal. People of all ages respond to it. The lyrics are clear, distinct and memorable. So you may not personally like it...but that doesn't make it a bad song. I was just trying to point out that you were in the minority. As many, many, many people are clammering for its release.
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Post by cimee on Oct 1, 2005 10:56:05 GMT -5
I think it might be (kinda, maybe, not all) a guy thing, cuz I like the song o.k. but Hubby does not and he likes Marty a lot.!!
And I do agree that constructive criticism is a must for improvement.
Every one is entitled to their opinion. If someone says that's great all the time, and yet you go nowhere, it is time to take into consideration what could be better. I personally hate it when someone YUP's me to death! I would much rather get several different opinions and then come to the conclusion on my own. ;D
edited because I can not spell today!
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Post by rockbeast on Oct 1, 2005 11:07:27 GMT -5
I dont thing that the sex is an issue, I LOVE the song Trees and its a great song to work out at the gym to (All MC/LH material is like this) Anyways, two chicks I work with (who got me into RINXS (I never watch TV)) HATED MARTY, HATED TREES, HATED J.D., HATED JORDIS.. They loved Suzie though. (As do I) Maybe the co-workers are lesbian? LOL I think liking Trees is a matter of opinion, and if you dont like it, your opion sucks ass!  Remember what Dave Navarro said after Marty debuted this song nationally!!! He could totally hear it on the radio.... |
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Post by cimee on Oct 1, 2005 14:52:53 GMT -5
That would also be Dave Navarro's opinion. I like "Trees" but that is really uncalled for to say just because someone doesn't agree with YOU that their opinion sucks ass. And I didn't SAY it was a sex thing. I said it COULD be. Don't make me defend myself here of all places! Does everyone who doesn't agree with you suck ass? If so I guess that there must be some major ass suckers in the world as everyone DOES have their own opinion.  |
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Post by Amy on Oct 1, 2005 15:28:30 GMT -5
Hey, hey, hey now. You all need to play nice. Don't make me put on the mean Mod hat, m'kay? Enough already with the rude remarks.
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Post by sammie on Oct 3, 2005 6:34:41 GMT -5
OMG!! You guys are too funny!! Not gonna suck ass here! LOL
I think INXS picked the wrong guy because they can control JD... he was SO awestruck by them. Marty is too strong for them.
They picked JD, to get his fan base to come to the shows, and they made a real smart move by asking Marty to open for them. Now they have both fan bases to sell tickets too. They may be old, but they were wise to do this.
And I don't think it was fair to let JD use their song in the competition. At all.
But Trees still kicked it ass, so it's all good.
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Post by brightside on Oct 3, 2005 8:09:11 GMT -5
As to the stamina: I was thinking that if INXS was having such a hard time showing energy during a few songs, how will they do an entire concert? They will be exhausted.
As to the Trees issue: Remember that Marty and the Lovehammers are saying that they are looking at which version of Trees they will release for the single. He modified it for the show to be "roit" for INXS, and they can crank it up to be more rock and Martifed now that they don't have that limitation.
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Post by Mad For Martay on Oct 3, 2005 9:58:22 GMT -5
Finally, to be a little snarky, nobody seems to have mentioned that "Pretty Vegas" was co-written by Andrew Farriss. It is not a completely original song ... unlike Trees! Marty just said on the radio Jordis and him(Marty) co-wrote Pretty Vegas with JD |
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Post by nancy on Oct 3, 2005 15:28:09 GMT -5
I know exactly what you were trying to say and had the same thought. Marty even mentioned in some inteview that that song was sitting in a drawer somewhere and is surprised by how much people love it. Don't get me wrong, I love Marty and I like "Trees" because he's singing it. But, do I think that this song is the best representation of their great talent? No. But, if it gets the Loverhammers other music out there, I'm all for it. I'm very sorry Cindy if I came across as unsupportive, that wasn't my intent at all! All I was trying to say, I guess rather clumsily, is that since RSINXS, I've listened to the Lovehammers, and compared to much of what else they do, I just don't think Trees is up to that same level. And it would be a shame if the public's first taste of his talent is a song that I (albeit a minority of one) think is not nearly as good as what has gone before. I don't put a lot of stock in MSN d/l as a barometer of how the "public" at large is responding to the Rock Star contestants. The dominance of all the show's material over far more established and, at least right now, popular acts just shows that the stats are skewed from fans of the show, not the general music buying public as a whole. I have no doubt Marty's future success is assured, and I'll be cheering him on! But can we not support someone and be honest at the same time? In fact, if we think that a move is wrong for his career, isn't the truly supportive thing to do is to say it? |
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Post by asthmaticagnostic on Oct 6, 2005 17:44:41 GMT -5
SweetWingedOne,
I am with you on this. Trees is the most commercial song M. has written, this is why it is so popular.
I would die to hear him do Try Not!!!! Thinking about it, he has never really sang the blues...that would be a good shot at it.
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Post by moya37 on Oct 7, 2005 0:04:37 GMT -5
I thought the ass sucking comment was a joke. Was it wrong that I laughed?  |
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Post by cimee on Oct 7, 2005 11:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by begora on Oct 9, 2005 21:06:14 GMT -5
Pretty Vegas was the song JD wrote when he was supposed to be collaborating with his team on a song. The music was written by INXS but the words were written by JD with some help from Marty and Jordis. Although the song did not qualify for that session, because it wasn't the collabrative effort that was requested, when each singer was asked to sing a song they wrote, it was totally appropriate for JD to sing it. Even though I don't like JD as a person, I do think it was a good song. I also agree that JD is what INXS wants. He will fit in better. Marty has too much star quality and would have outshined them. They didn't really want a Rock Star, they wanted a rock singer and that's what they got!
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Post by madmaestro62 on Oct 10, 2005 8:37:12 GMT -5
In an interview, Marty said he also had a part in writing 'Pretty Vegas'. Guess he and Jordis gave JD some ideas and he kept them in the song, so actually, JD and INXS owe credit to Marty (and Jordis) as well for their new single.
Shows you just how talented Marty really is. He is an incredible songwriter, helping with not only Pretty Vegas, but Jordis' Try Not.
Also, gotta agree 100% with sweetangel. INXS knew Marty would outshine them. He is too talented, intelligent and business savvy for a band like INXS who are trying to make a comeback. They wanted someone like JD that would blend in. Marty never wavered from who is, from his unique style. It's what I think made him stand out above everyone else and at the same time, scared INXS off of choosing him.
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Post by racal on Oct 13, 2005 16:58:48 GMT -5
tim's reply in the people of why they picked j.d. upsets me. i know michael's sister, nephew and niece and all of us agree that they picked jd because he reminded us of michael.
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Post by drivmcr8zy on Oct 13, 2005 20:49:12 GMT -5
Finally, to be a little snarky, nobody seems to have mentioned that "Pretty Vegas" was co-written by Andrew Farriss. It is not a completely original song ... unlike Trees! SO TRUE  I really think the show from the start had JD picked. Marty would of out shined INXS. They wanted to change him. Having Farris help write Pretty Vegas..hmmm and Jd lead the song "US"..hmmm. Marty song was his with the Lovehammers and Migs two songs was his and why nobody talks about Do or Die..it's a really good song. Has anybody know if trees has been released as a single or if Do or Die will be?  |
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